2002-2003 Archived Messages:
General: IHS-Membership-Bulletin Board Instructions
Count,MessageID,category,ShortTitle,Message,Date,UserName,MsgPswd,Phone,Email
"1","427442","1","CANDIDATES FOR IHS BOARD OF DIRECTORS||427442","CANDIDATES FOR IHS BOARD OF DIRECTORS
CLASS OF 2003 - 2006
PLEASE VOTE FOR FOUR (4) CANDIDATES
BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARIES
(Arranged in Alphabetical Order)
MARK R. BEBAR
Mr. Bebar has over 32 years of experience, with 21 years focused specifically in the areas of total surface ship system research and development, design and acquisition support. In his most recent position before retiring from the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) in January 2003 and joining CSC, he was Division Director for Future Ship and Force Architecture Concepts (SEA 05D1). In this position, he was responsible for conducting whole-ship concept and feasibility studies and supporting assessment of competing ship design alternatives from pre-Milestone A through the Analysis of Alternative (AoA) phase.
During the period of 1998-2002, Mr. Bebar was the NAVSEA lead for support to the Navy Warfare Development Command (NWDC), Naval War College (NWC) and CNO Strategic Studies Group (SSG). Specifically, SEA 05D1 provided whole-ship and force level alternatives for SSG XVIII and XIX, as well as ship concept development for Global War Games held at the Naval War College, Newport in 1999 -2001.
Mr. Bebar was also responsible for initiating the Future Force Formulation (F3) process in which NAVSEA facilitates the rational examination of future force architectures and ship concepts.
Mr. Bebar's prior assignments have been on various phases of the ship design and acquisition process for the following programs: PHM, AO-177, ARS-50, T-AGOS 23, Strategic Sealift, DD-21, CVX and LHD-5. In conducting pre-Milestone A concept studies, I provide Technical Oversight and Technical Accountability by ensuring that total ship studies for future missions represent technically feasible solutions. In developing future ship schedules and RDT&E funding profiles, he influenced early-stage financial management, requiring close coordination with Program Managers/PEOs and OPNAV Sponsors.
As Chairman of NATO Naval Group 6 [NG/6] on Ship Design during the period 1994 - 2002, Mr. Bebar facilitated multi-national dialogue on ship design processes and standards, including use of commercial standards in design and construction and use of Simulation Based Design and Virtual Prototyping for naval ship design and acquisition.
Mr. Bebar has received numerous awards, including the NAVSEA Lisanby Award for Professionalism (1988), the ASE Professional Achievement Award (1989) and the DoN Superior Civilian Service Award (1994) for his work on the Ship Characteristics and Improvement (SCIP) Staff in OPNAV N86. He was elected a SNAME Fellow in January 2002.
DENNIS CLARK
Mr. Clark has worked at the Carderock Division of the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWCCD) for nearly forty years in a wide variety of positions prior to his retirement in January 2003. He has been Director of Strategic Planning, Assistant Technical Director, Head of the Costing and Design Systems Office, Deputy Head of the Advanced Concepts Office, Manager of Systems Integration in the Advanced Hydrofoil Development Office and lead structural researcher for the Hydrofoil Office. He is a charter member of IHS and throughout his career he has supported the development of advanced vehicles through a number activities such as: the development of the Advanced Ship Data Bank (currently containing over 15,000 documents on advanced vehicles); lead the development of a total ship early stage design tool called ASSET (Advanced Surface Ship Evaluation Tool) for a variety of ship types (surface combatants, hydrofoils, SWATH ships, and tri-hull concepts); lead the development of cost estimating capability for advanced technology and vehicles, and has promoted innovation through a number of venues such as chairman of NSWCCD’s Invention Evaluation Board for the last ten years; promoted the development of Carderock’s Innovation Center; and as ONR’s lead researcher for their Concept Assessment of Platforms and Systems task. Mr. Clark is an engineering graduate of City College of New York and has done graduate work towards a MBA at George Washington University.
WILLIAM HOCKBERGER
William Hockberger is an independent consultant in systems engineering, economic analysis and ship design. He worked for 27 years as a naval architect and design manager in the US Navy's ship design organization, gaining experience in the design of all major types of naval ships. In his final Navy position he headed the Advanced Design and Assessment Branch, with responsibility for technology and design of advanced marine vehicles and for economic and cost-effectiveness analysis of naval ships in general.
In recent years he has worked more on commercial ships and systems, a major focus being the economic analysis and business planning of fast ferry services.
He developed and applies a total-system, total-life-cycle approach to the development of marine systems, both naval and commercial, and has been engaged by several organizations to help them incorporate those methods into their own processes. Since the environmental impacts of high speed ferries have been a serious concern in many areas, he has developed ways of including them in analyses, particularly wake-wash and air pollution. Bill holds a bachelors degree in naval architecture and marine engineering (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MIT) and Masters degrees in operations research (MIT) and applied economics (American University).
He has been an IHS member for many years and on its Board of Directors since1994. He is a member of SNAME (Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers) and its Panel SD-5 (Advanced Surface Ships and Craft) and Panel O-36 (Maritime Economics) and was made a Fellow of the Society in 2002. He is also a member of the American Society of Naval Engineers (ASNE), the International Council on Systems Engineering (INCOSE), and the Military Operations Research Society (MORS). He is an affiliate of the Transportation Research Board of the National Research Council and a member of its Committee on Ferry Transportation.
GEORGE J. JENKINS, JR. CDR USN (RET.)
George is a U.S. Naval Academy graduate, Class of 1958. As a Surface Warfare Officer, his sea tours included Destroyers, Destroyer staffs and Mobile Logistic Support Force (MLSF) (Command). His shore tours included the U.S. Naval Academy (instructor in Physics 1967-1969), U.S. Naval War College as a student in 1970, Defense Nuclear Agency (1972-1974), Office of the Chief of Naval Operations (OPNAV) serving as PHM Program coordinator from 1976 through 1979.
He also served on the staff of the Commander in Chief, U.S. Naval Forces, Europe for the detailed planning for PHM support in the Mediterranean. He retired from the Navy in 1981. From November 1982 until October 1993 George provided technical and management support to the OPNAV PHM Platform Sponsor.
After providing support to seven NAVAIR and NAVSEA Combat System acquisitions, he retired in 2000. He resides in Alexandria Virginia.Text","2003-04-29","white","nopswd"," ","whitewn@seariderinc.com"
"2","420754","1","Re; Compuserve Bans IHS||420754","Barney,
No help on Compuserve, but for whatever it's worth, AOL search ("Enhanced by Google") brings IHS right up.
George
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","2003-04-20","George Jenkins","nopswd"," ","georgejj@aol.com"
"3","420280","1","Compuserve Bans IHS||420280","This weekend, while on travel and using my brother's computer, I found that Compuserve seems to have banned the IHS website! I used the Compuserve seach feature to search for "hydrofoil" and for "hydrofoils"... no hit for IHS or mention of IHS on any of the sites found. I then searched specifically for "International Hydrofoil Society" and got only hits for those sites that have been kind enough to link to IHS. The IHS site itself is not cited. This is all the more mysterious because the Compuserve search feature is "powered by Google." If I go directly to the Google site and search there for hydrofoil, the IHS site comes up number one in the listing. So somehow IHS is getting filtered out by Compuserve... we are cruelly, unjustly, and perhaps evilly banned! If there are any Compuserve users who can explain this mystery -- or better yet, help to resolve it -- your unjustly persecuted webmaster would be most greatful!","2003-04-19","Barney C. Black","poopdeck"," ","webmaster@foils.org"
"4","417231","1","Re; Re; vote test||417231","This voting capability has two modes.
As it is currently configured, anyone can set up a vote question.
It can also be set up so that only the administrators can acivate the voting process.
Both options could be usefull
Bill White","2003-04-14","Bill White","nopswd"," ","bbs@foils.org"
"5","416051","1","Re; vote test||416051","I like this vote capability... it is easy to use. We can put use it all over the site to make IHS more like CNN!","2003-04-13","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," ","webmaster@foils.org"
"6","412837","1","vote test||412837","voting test of messages","2003-04-08","wwhite","guru"," ","bbs@foils.org"
"7","396595","1","You sent a virus, you dirty dog||396595","The modern virus or worm is becoming ever more sophisticated in forging headers (To, From, and Subject) to make the host email seem like an innnocent communication from someone you know or do business with. Another trick is to make the infected email look like a returned message, something you sent that was rejected for bad address. For instance, IHS recently received a virus-infected email with the following header:
From: postmaster
To: webmaster@foils.org
Subj: Returned mail-- "Dixon (gallery@foils.org)"
This looks very much like the IHS webmaster (me) sent an email to the photo gallery editor (Malin Dixon) and the email was rejected. However, an expansion of the header reveals that this virus-infected email actually originated in Croatia.
IHS has members in countries all over the world, and thus our email address resides in email address books and message archives in many countries. If a mass-mailing type virus or worm infects a computer with our email address (or your email address) on the hard drive, it is possible that viruses will be broadcast looking like they came from us (or from you).
I want to reassure everyone that as the IHS webmaster I have implemented a full series of virus protection measures utilizing protective hardware, software, and procedures. Also, I frequently exhort our volunteers who communicate on IHS's behalf to keep their virus shields on high. So if an infected email appears to have come from the IHS webmaster, it probably didn't. Expand the message header and investigate further to be sure.
As virus and other attacks become more sophisticated, it behooves everyone to have a good antivirus program installed and keep the virus signatures updated. Those connected to the internet via broadband or other "always on" connections should also have personal firewall software installed (IHS is "hit" several times a day by probes seeking to get into the webmaster's computer... attacks that originate from Thailand, China, Eastern Europe, and countries unknown).
Conclusion: Things are not always what they appear. We have had two members cancel because their computers were devastated by a virus they believed came from us... it didn't. We are not the "dirty dog" who sent you the virus. Get protected!","2003-03-15","Barney C. Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"8","391261","1","A Simple Password for a Simple Person||391261","The following email is humorous, but treats a serious security topic: password management. This is an actual communication from the IT manager to the members of a sophisticated military design and engineering team, including several team members with advanced degrees from MIT. The actual military service will remain nameless for obvious reasons!
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Now that I have your attention, we need to discuss an issue that is far from being near and dear to our hearts but of vital importance to the security of our systems -- passcodes and passwords.
Flashback to [the Mel Brooks comedy movie] Spaceballs: "What's the combination, Sir?"
"1...2...3...4..."
"Sounds like the combination was picked out by an idiot!"
Or so the producers emphasized during this scene that has two bumblers opening up the protective shield around the planet Druidia. Now, a deep breath and we return to reality. Is this (1-2-3-4) the passcode on your phone? Oh-oh!
I've been in the systems security business almost as long as I've been into computer networks--going on twenty-three years so if I may be so blunt to say, the rules haven't changed much. Periodically change your passcodes to ensure that some unwanted intruder can't access your calls or files.
Depending on the protection you need to give to your systems (phone and files), you should use passwords of at least a minimum length or/and varying combinations of characters. Yet, the one rule that stuck in my mind is: don't use the same password for multiple accounts.
But why, Santa, why are you taking our Christmas tree?
Why, indeed. If some bright, some curious visitor, or even a member of the organization, sits at your desk and decides to "hack-around, " he, or she, might break one of your codes and, finding his or her way open, might decide to experiment on your other accounts--old phones, other networks, credit cards, etc. This brings us to the real reason for this "spotlight" message.
In soliciting the passcodes for voice mail boxes that are no longer in use from a number of the individuals who transferred to the [new project office], we received several responses of an odd nature. I say "odd nature" considering the rules I know to be sound, security-wise. Several respondents refused to turn over their passcodes because it would "compromise" passcodes they use for other systems. "1..2..3..4.."
Yikes!!
While the passcodes might not be so simple as the one that was used in
"Spaceballs," I have no doubt that some of those people used "magic numbers" that I define as birth dates, social security numbers, license numbers, address numbers, zip codes, phone numbers, and the like. If you can't release your voice mail box passcode because it will compromise other systems that you access, the problem is bigger than just the voice mail that we have to pay to reset unless we get the passcode. You've made yourself, your information, and, perhaps, the organization more vulnerable to additional compromises. Those of you who have honestly presented this argument -- that giving out your passcodes on the phone system in the building will compromise your other systems -- you are strongly urged to rethink your practices.
This is not the military way. Not only does it waste assets when we have to pay to reset voice mail boxes unnecessarily, it cuts into the funds that need to be used for necessities. All because someone has taken a combination and put it on many accounts instead of protecting each account with its own password. Remember, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to crack a combination. Maybe all it takes is someone like me, or like you. A bit of personal information and a little bit of luck could cause a whole lot of hurt if you don't approach passcodes with appropriate care. So, next time you set your passcodes, remember "1...2...3...4..." Don't risk your job or the mission by making it easy for your buddy, the hacker. If it's easy for you, how easy are you making it for him?
James M. Fitz-Gerald
fitzgeraldjasm@hotmail.com","2003-03-07","Barney C Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"9","390897","1","Another eBay Fraud Attempt||390897","Coincidentally, I received another fraudulant and very different message the next day. This one was an offer to win a Mercedes car in a drawing. The HTML email looked very official, just like the eBay login screen. The scammer had even registered an eBay-like domain: www.ebay-mercedes.com. This thief was more clever than the sender of the previous email, who was so greedy as to ask for a ridiculous amount of private information, including checking account number, bank transfer number, etc. This email seemed to present a simple contest just like thousands of others, and all you had to do was log in to register... very innocent and appealing. Had I been so foolish as to "log in" the scammer would have used my password to access my account. There he could try to use eBay's "Billpoint" service to make a payment to himself (This would not have worked because I use a different password for that area of eBay). Lessons learned: be alert for internet thievery, and don't use the same password for everything!","2003-03-07","Barney C. Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"10","389551","1","Yacht Design Marketing and Sales Manager||389551","Product marketing and sales:
Experienced Marketing and Country Sales Manager, naval architect student, seeking to apply successful international product positioning and sales experience and multilingual abilities to the expansion of yacht design company's market share. Comfortable in any cultural environment, adaptable, with a sincere enthusiasm for hydrofoils and the megayacht market. Currently residing in Paris, France (US citizen) and willing to relocate.
Please contact:
Vladimir M. Algin at
VALGIN@LTSU.NET
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Vladimir M. Algin
","2003-03-05","Vladimir M. Algin","nopswd",".","valgin@ltsu.net"
"11","388198","1","Re; eBay Fraud Attempt - Beware||388198","This is the response from the ebay's General Announcements Board:
Date: 02/23/2003
Time: 22:25:48 PST
***Protect Your eBay Password and Your Personal Information***
eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information.
Some members have reported attempts to gain access to their personal information through email solicitations that are falsely made to appear as having come from eBay. These solicitations will often contain links to Web pages that will request that you sign in and submit information. At eBay, we identify these as 'spoofed' emails or Web sites.
We encourage you to be very cautious of emails that ask you to submit personal information such as your credit card number or your eBay password.
To be sure that you are signing into a genuine eBay Web site, look at the Address/Location area of your browser. At an eBay.com sign-in or log-in page, the URL (link) that appears in the Address/Location area of your browser will begin with "http://cgi.ebay.com/" or "http://scgi.ebay.com/". Please pay close attention to all characters in the address, including the forward slash (/) that follows "ebay.com". Even if the Address/Location includes the word "ebay", it may not be a genuine eBay Web site. If you receive or suspect you have received such an email, do not respond to it or click the links. Immediately send a copy of it to spam@ebay.com.
If you have any doubt as to whether or not the website you are on is an official eBay web page, please visit our Account Security page for more complete information on the URLs used on eBay web pages.
Regards,
eBay ","2003-03-03","Barry Steele","nopswd",".","barry_steele@yahoo.com"
"12","387836","1","Re; eBay Fraud Attempt - Beware||387836","Thank you for writing regarding the email you received that appeared to be an eBay account verification.
Let me begin by telling you that this email was not sent by eBay
nor endorsed by us in anyway. These emails are the result of a
fraudulent entity that primarily targets members who have used their
email address as their User ID or have exposed their email address on
the site.
Please let me assure you that eBay will NEVER ask for your private
information, including passwords, in an email format. If we ever
request information from you, we will always direct you back to the eBay site to enter this information. With few exceptions, you can submit this through your "My eBay" pages.
If you have entered information on any website other than eBay, you
should immediately take steps to protect your personal information.
First, start by changing your eBay password and the password hint if you have one set up. If you find your eBay password has been changed, you should contact us immediately by replying to this email. Next, we recommend that you contact the applicable financial companies and even your local authorities with these details. You may also write back for a detailed list of agencies to help get you started in recovering your information.
Although we are unable to provide follow up information regarding the
result of our investigation, we do take these offenses very seriously
and will make sure that appropriate action is taken against those
responsible. Please keep in mind that eBay relies on the same agencies you do to pursue these fraudulent entities.
Even if you did not enter any information, you may want to check out
some of these helpful fraud prevention and anti-Spam sites below:
http://spam.abuse.net
http://spamcop.net/
http://mail-abuse.org/
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/idtheft.html
More information about eBay account security can be found at the
following links:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/account_protection.html?ssPageName=CMDV:AB0008
http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?new=account_protection.html
If you should receive another email like this in future, please
re-submit your concern through our web form using the link below:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html
Again, thank you for your efforts to help keep eBay a safe place to
trade. Please let me know if you will require additional information or assistance.
","2003-03-02","eBay SafeHarbor","poopdeck",".","cswebform@ebay.com"
"13","387483","1","eBay Fraud Attempt - Beware||387483","Although IHS does not endorse or recommend specific products and services, the IHS website and newsletter often mention eBay and other internet auction sites as a means for buying and selling hydrofoil memorabilia, old books and magazines about hydrofoils etc. I am a heavy user of eBay for this purpose.
I received an email from eBay today (early Sunday a.m.) telling me to update my billing information within 24 hours or else have my account closed. This email seemed authentic, but there were clues to make me suspicious: short turnaround time, consequences for no response too severe, and some unusual English phrasing. When I clicked on a link in the message to do this, I was taken to a website in the UK, and the URL seems to have nothing to do with eBay. That webpage has an authentic-looking form for entering userid, password, credit card info, etc. with liberal use of the eBay logo. The only think a bit odd about the page is the strange URL and some awkward English. Also, this seems a very insecure way for eBay to do business. So I believe the email and webpage to be a fraud. If not a fraud, then it is a most ill advised approach to be taken by eBay.
I hope that none of our IHS members and visitors has received this same email, but if you did, please do not follow the instructions. If you have already gone and entered your eBay userid, password, and credit card info, I would suggest you call your credit card company immediately to check if rampant purchases have already been made. If not, have the company close or put a hold on the account, or get them to put a password on the account for any charge over some dollar threshold that you choose. Also go to eBay and change your password!
This is about the most elaborate fraud I have seen yet... it seems very real except for the fact that it comes on a Sunday with only a 24-hour turnaround time, and a bit of bad English in the text on the website.
This incident indicates the need to be wary always when doing business over the internet. Responsible companies will not solicit your password or financial information by email. Always check the URL when you enter such info to be sure you are where you think you are. And of course everyone should install virus protection software and personal firewall... and keep the virus signatures up to date.","2003-03-02","Barney C. Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"14","385572","1","Re; Meeting Notice||385572","The date of the meeting has been postponed to March 6, 2003. The full meeting notice is posted at: http://www.foils.org/troika.pdf
If you plan to attend, please notify John Meyer as soon as possible at: president@foils.org","2003-02-26","Barney C. Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"15","374478","1","Meeting Notice||374478","For IHS members and other hydrofoilers in or near the Washington DC area: This is a preliminary announcement for the next Joint Meeting of the International Hydrofoil Society, the SC-5 Panel of the Society of Naval Architects and Engineers, and the US Hovercraft Society later this month, so please mark your calendars. Date: February 27, 2003. Place: Days Inn Motel, "Crystal City" (Arlington VA). Time: Starting at about 5:30 or 6:00pm. Speaker: Colen Kennell. Subject: High Speed Sea Lift. A formal announcement with more details will be coming out soon on the IHS Announcements webpage at http://www.foils.org/announce. If you plan to attend, please sign up with John Meyer ASAP by sending an email to president@foils.org or by calling him at 1-301-519-9043 (leave a message if he is out). We hope to see you there!
","2003-02-08","Barney C. Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"16","365433","1","Re; Re; Membership Renewal Time||365433","Doug,
I checked with PayPal Tech Support and this is what we came up with:
A. It is possible that there was a transient problem with the link from the BBS to the memberhip page or from the membership page to PayPal site. This is apparently the assumption the accented lady was going on when she took you directly to the PayPal site. This is very rare but it could have been the problem.
2. Another possibilty is that your browser had "Cookies" disabled. Cookies must be enabled or your passwords can't be recognized. This is a source of occasional difficulty especially among AOL and Webtv users, I was told.
Just to check it out, I "joined" IHS via the IHS website/PayPal using another email address. I did encounter a hiccup on my first password try, but the second try went through with no problems. So it appears that any transient link problems have gone away.
I would like to clarify one of Barney's remarks. You become a "user" or "member" of PayPal automaticallly when you make your first payment via our website (or somebody else's) OR when you sign up directly from the PayPal site. Your account remains in place indefinitely, whether you use it or not, unless you cancel it for some reason. Detils on this are available at www.paypal.com
I'd welcome comments by other users as to current or prior problems of this nature.
All the best,
George","2003-01-22","George Jenkins","nopswd",".","georgejj@aol.com"
"17","365265","1","Re; Re; Membership Renewal Time||365265","Doug,
I regret the difficulty you experienced with PayPal. I'm not sure exactly where things went wrong, but I intend to pursue it with the company.
I should mention that we have have had a total of 272 transactions with PayPal in the last year, eight of them today. Yours is the only significant problem or delay that has been reported to us. There is always a first time, though, and we will try to ensure that there is not a second.
Sincerely,
George Jenkins
Treasurer
","2003-01-21","George Jenkins","nopswd",".","georgejj@aol.com"
"18","365117","1","PayPal Difficulties||365117","Hi Doug, thanks for your renewal, and sorry for your difficulty with PayPal, which I am at a loss to explain. It normally goes through very smoothly, so there must have been some temporary problem. There is no extra service charge to you to make a payment with Paypal. IHS does incur a small fee, but this is worth absorbing in return for the convenience to the membership, especially members who live outside the USA.
Contrary to what the lady told you, it is not necessary to go to the PayPal site and become a user just to pay your IHS dues once a year. You can and should become a user, however, if you are a participate in on-line auction services such as eBay... it is a very convenient way to pay... assuming it is working properly. I have personally used PayPal many times over the past year or so and have never had any problem, so I conclude that glitches are rare. Sorry it had to happen to you.
Others should not be discouraged from taking advantage of the PayPal payment option based on your bad experience, which was an exception.","2003-01-21","Barney C Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"19","364914","1","Re; Membership Renewal Time||364914"," I clicked on the "pay pal" link in your membership e-mail and filled out the appropriate information then clicked on "continue". The machine would not accept two different passwords and put up a number to call. I called and a lady with a very heavy accent (somewhat hard to understand) said it wouldn't accept the password because I tried to sign up from a link. She said I had to go to www.paypal.com and click on the "sign up for free" icon. I did and refilled in all the information. When I got to the point of accepting the user agreement I decided I'd better read it; I did but am still not sure: do they charge me for this? Anyway, I decided to go back and click on "I accept". Only problem was that now all my information was gone and I ain't fillin it out again!! I could have written 10 checks or more and put them all in envelopes in the time I wasted here!","2003-01-21","Doug Lord","nopswd",".","lorsail@webtv.net"
"20","360567","1","Past Newsletters, Books, Mags||360567","The index of past newsletters is accessible from your browser directly at http://www.foils.org/all-nls.xls. This is a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet, so you will need that program to use it.
A large (but not complete) list of books and magazine articles on hydrofoils is on the website at: http://www.foils.org/refpop.htm. This page is in HTML format, so any browser can access it; you do not have to have Microsoft Excel or Office.","2003-01-09","Barney C Black","poopdeck",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"21","357708","1","Re; Index of Past Newsletters||357708"," I would like to get a list of articles on foils on my email Thank you Vincent Browne p.s. Where do I get an index of past newsletters?","2003-01-01","vincent browne","nopswd",".","vincent_himself@hotmail.com"
"22","357462","1","Index of Past Newsletters||357462","IHS Member Martin Grimm has undertaken to provide an index of all past articles from the IHS newsletter. To view the newsletter, go to http://www.foils.org/all-nls.xls. You will need the Microsoft Excel software or a file viewer such as QuickView Plus to see the contents of this file.","2003-01-01","Barney C Black","nopswd",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"23","355859","1","Design Team Building||355859","Hello Gerry,
In your posted message you indicate that you are looking at why hydrofoils have not made a greater inroads in the US market and that your conclusions will become "Patent Pending".
You may have noticed that on various occasions the IHS has been asked questions along similar lines via its bulletin boards and various responses have been given by IHS members and others. I presume therefore that it is not the conclusions that you are able to draw about lack of market share that you plan to patent (I don't know how that could be done), rather you intend to come up with a solution to those apparent difficulties, be that through a new and novel design or otherwise, and patent that instead?
I wish you well in promoting any good new hydrofoil concepts as one of the views sometimes expressed in the marine community is that hydrofoils are old fashioned!","2002-12-27","Martin Grimm","nopswd",".","seaflite@alphalink.com.au"
"24","354239","1","Design Team Building||354239","I am a retired engineer and successful commercial development director from a Fortune 500 company. I have spent the past year studying the failure of hydrofoil boats to be used by the NAVY, Coast Guard, or for that matter, have a measurable market share of the 17,000,000 boats operating in the USA. My conclusions will become "Patent Pending" in January, 2003. At that time I will seek funding to design and build a test boat.
I am interested in recruiting an advisory/consulting team with the following skills.
1. Expert in design of sub cavitating foils
2. Expert in design of super cavitating foils.
3. Wave dynamics/kinetics expert.
4. Designer with collision "tolerance" experience.
Your assignment will be to propse the initial detailed design and to train my engineers. You will be required to attend regular coordination meetings, but can work out of your current location.
If you are interested, please contact me. A short resume would be helpful.
Gerry Levine gerrymega@aol.com ","2002-12-21","Gerry Levine","nopswd",".","gerrymega@aol.com"
"25","308377","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage - sketch||308377","I really liked the sketch, I can almost picture encountering a machine like this heading straight at me in the intercoastal waterway. But I would be really concerned about stability if you try to use the wing surfaces for controlling it. In simple terms (I am simpleton after all) there will be a proportion between the stabilization force of the foils to the wings. Let's say the foils provide 60% of the lift. That means under the wrong circumstances the foils could be producing 60% of the de-stabilizing forces while the wings are only producing 40% of the stablilizing forces, and that would be bad. Okay, the lets assume the wings will support 75% of the lift. Now they have enough control to overcome any de-stabilizing forces from the foils, assuming the foils are in clean water. Aside from the fact that you are now back to 90% airplane, there is another problem. Foils are likely to encounter floating debris. Even if the wings have adequate control in normal circumstances, a log strike would put you in a bad way. And I imagine that low speed stability would be chancy at best. My guess is that the first time you nailed the gas from a standing start the torque would pull you hard over before the controls could get enough speed to compensate. If you are serious about turning this airplane into a real surface skimmer, why don't you look at some of the pages about WIGs (wing in ground effect)? You are already 80% there with a working airplane. The speeds would be higher and sandbars and waterborne debris wouldn't matter. It would be a smooth ride and wouldn't need complicated control systems for the foils. WIgs are also very efficient, and the last article I read stated that in most states, if a WIG is incapable of sustained flight out of ground effect, it is classified as a boat. I'd look into that one though, just to make sure. BTW, I have seen hydrofoils with airplane style fuselages, most were attempts at speed records and didn't look much like a plane when they were finished. If you are still curious, I'll look up a couple examples for you.
Best of luck,
Scott Smith","2002-09-11","Scott Smith","nopswd",".","ssmith@syntheon.com"
"26","306448","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage - sketch||306448","The sketch attachment failed with my last message, try again...","2002-09-06","Martin Grimm","nopswd",".","seaflite@alphalink.com.au"
"27","306446","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage||306446","Concerning your further question, it is not a simple one to answer without further analysis. My gut feeling however is that the control forces that could be generated in ailerons, the elevator and a rudder operating above the water surface may not be high enough to counter the forces generated on the foils when travelling through waves. To exacerbate that problem, these aerofoil surfaces would be subject to the effects of tailwinds for some headings and so would generate less lift than could be expected in still air at the given craft speed.
To consider this issue further, it is worth doing some comparisons:
Lift is proportional to the following:
1. Density of the fluid that the wing or hydrofoil is operating in (being either air or fresh water in this case).
2. The square of the relative velocity of the wing through the fluid.
3. The foil planform area.
4. Numerous other parameter like angle of attack, foil profile, planform shape etc.
The density of air is around 1.223 kg/(cubic.m) while the density of fresh water is about 998 kg/(cubic.m), hence, all other things being the same, a wing operating in water would generate 816 times more lift than the same wing in air. Of course in practice, the planform area of the hydrofoils in your application could be made 816 times smaller than the wing area of the original Volmer Sportsman and they would still easily lift the craft if it was travelling at the cruising speed of 139.47 km/h (75.3 knots) that is quoted for that aircraft. In practice, it would be more feasible to consider an upper limit of speed of about 30 knots for the hydrofoil proposal. This is a speed at which it should be possible to develop hydrofoil profiles without a high likelihood of having to deal with cavitation. As a consequence, you would require a larger foil area than suggested by the above calculation. The wing area of the Sportsman design is quoted as being 16.3 square metres (175 square feet). The foil planform area of all the hydrofoils units supporting the weight of the boat would therefore need to be around:
Total Planform Area = (1.223/998) x (75.3/30)^2 x 16.3 = 0.125 square metres.
This could be made up by say three equally sized foils each with a span of 500mm and a mean chord length of around 85mm. To be on the safe side, probably more should be allowed. This needs to be calculated more carefully before attempting to build items for the craft.
Now, to generate enough roll restoring moment in the ailerons for example, the moment they can generate would need to be of the same order of magnitude as the destabilising moment that could result in the pair of hydrofoils positioned forward as they encounter waves. Assuming the stub wing and its ailerons are operating in a 10 knot tailwind while the craft is travelling through the water at 30 knots, a crude estimate of their required area can be made as follows:
If the forward foils are mounted from the wing tips, then the "lever arm" of the bow foils is about the same relative to the centreline of the craft than the ailerons, perhaps a little more. Hence there is no lever advantage of a the ailerons compared to the bow foils. If we now proportion the aileron area to the area of each bow foils in terms of lift forces than can be generated, we obtain:
Approximate Required Aileron Area = 0.125 / 3 x (998/1.223) x (30/(30-10))^2 = 76.5 square metres each!
With a wing span of only 12 ft and a chord length of say about 5 ft, you have a total wing area of only 60 square feet or 5.6 square metres to play with, and the available aileron area to control roll motions would be a fair bit less than that. Even though the above required aileron area estimate may be conservative, it does indicate that relying on aerodynamic forces to counter the strong hydrodynamic destabilising forces that may be encountered for fully submerged foils in waves may be quite risky. This is especially so if you put many hours into the project to assemble the hydrofoil units and stub wing etc and don't want to see that effort go in vain. Although more complicated, the approach of automatically controlling the incidence angle of the hydrofoils to control the ride of the craft may still be more viable. Surface piercing V shaped hydrofoils would seem to be an even more straightforward and lower risk option as they are self stabilizing. It may be sufficient to only make the bow foils a surface piercing arrangement and the stern foil could be fully submerged and linked to the elevator control. I am attaching a sketch of how I perceive this taking into account your own suggestion of employing a 12 foot span stub wing to support the forward hydrofoils. As Scott Smith has indicated, the fuselage of the Sportsman would be fairly narrow and so it may lack static stability, particularly if an engine is placed high up. The original design of the aircraft included sponsons below both wings to maintain stability while on the water.
Finally, you may be interested to know there is a photo in the book "Hydrofoils - Without Formulae Series" by Christopher Hook and A.C. Kermode (see popular books about hydrofoils page of the IHS website for more details) that shows a very early venture to fit hydrofoils to the fuselage of a flying boat. This was done by Christopher Hook, who went on to pioneer the concept of fully submerged hydrofoils. The book is worthwhile background reading concerning hydrofoil design considerations if you can obtain it from a library in your area.","2002-09-06","Martin Grimm","nopswd",".","seaflite@alphalink.com.au"
"28","306441","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage||306441","I have one more question. Since the submerged hydrofoils have no stability in heave, pitch or roll---what if I simply used small stub wings attached to the fuselage with the submerged hydrofoils attached to the ends on vertical posts. The wings or winglets "flying" above the water surface, would have ailerons which would take care of roll.
I would similarly use a elevator on the tail to control pitch, and a rudder to control turns in coordination with the ailerons on the small wings. The fuselage is already designed for all of these components. In essence I would be flying a small plane in ground effect with perhaps the winglets producing a small amount of lift. I would make the wingspan small--perhaps about 12 feet. They would be foldable for transport.
The fuselage is already designed to be an amphibian and is equipped with retractable wheels mounted to the sides of the fuselage. I would use these to tow it to a lake or river behind my car. I wouldn't need a boat carrier.","2002-09-06","Jim Boxmeyer","nopswd",".","jimboxmeyer@elevatorpro.com"
"29","305512","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage||305512","It seems like you are not getting the engine, just the fuselage. I think the key words here would be 'marine plywood' and 'spruce'. Although it might work, that's a lot of weight. A good, used aluminum boat will be lighter, stronger, won't rot, and won't cost too much more. If you are going to get the engine and prop, keep in mind that the fuselage may be too narrow without the wings to keep it from tipping under power. Most airboats are wide and flat, not v bottomed and narrow. Also I assume you would cut the top off the fuselage (no roof for the boat) and maybe just leave the windshield, if you do you will need to reinforce the structure of the fuselage to prevent the foils from flexing the sides of the boat too much. It would be an interesting boat to say the least, but with the work you already have ahead of you to design and make the foil system, do you really want to spend all that time trying to convert an airplane fuselage too? And don't forget to add floatation! Whatever you decide, good luck with your project.
Scott","2002-09-04","Scott Smith","nopswd",".","ssmith@syntheon.com"
"30","303598","1","PHM-5 ARIES Update||303598","We have had the PHM5 Aries for 5 years now, but the first hydrofoil we have flown is a Dynafoil, one of only 250-500 made between '76-'78. It was put together by Bob Meinhardt from three we have purchased
and will be on display at the USS Aries Hydrofoil Memorial in October 2002, when we hope to open for tours officially for the first time. The Dynafoil represents one of the few recreational adaptations of fully submerged hydrofoil technology. With much help from the HNSA and many hours of work on Diana's part particularly, we have not only our non-profit organization, but 501 (c) (3) tax exempt status. We have been working on the HVAC system aboard the Aries and found that nearly all the chilled water heat exchangers were broken from freezing. We removed them and nearly have them welded back up. There just wasn't much need for antifreeze in Key West. We are still working toward our cruise south this winter, and when we are ready to shove off we will let everyone know.","2002-08-30","Eliot James","poopdeck",".","esjames@cvalley.net"
"31","302891","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage||302891","Jim,
This sounds like an interesting venture. Starting with an unfinished amphibian fuselage for a hydrofoil 'hull' would seem reasonable since it would have been constructed with weight minimisation in mind, which is just as important for hydrofoils as it is for aircraft. The fuselage also ought to be strong enough to cope with wave and water impacts in moderate sea conditions in which the aircraft was in any case intended to operate during take-off and landing. If you retain the same powerplant and propeller as intended for the aircraft, there shouldn't be major problems in getting the craft foilborne as long as you keep the foil components streamlined and don't add excessive weight. After all, the powerplant would have provided enough power to lift the aircraft off the water had it been fitted with wings instead. You need to realised that fully submerged foils do not have any significant inherent stability in heave, pitch or roll. As such, you would have to have an automatic control system to regulate the angle of attack or flap angle of these foils. It may be far easier to simply adopt some form of surface piercing hydrofoil design. More information on foil arrangements can be found by looking through the website.
Which ever way you go, good luck with your efforts. ","2002-08-29","Martin Grimm","nopswd",".","seaflite@alphalink.com.au"
"32","302782","1","Amphib aircraft fuselage||302782","I am interested in building a hydrofoil and would like to use the fuselage from a Volmer Sportsman experimental amphibian aircraft. It is designed with the engine mounted above and behind the cockpit on a pylon with the propeller in either the pusher or tractor configuration. The fuselage is constructed of marine plywood and spruce. The amphib. design has a v hull with a "step." I would probably use submerged foils (two up front and one at the tail). The fuselage has a vertical and horizontal stabilizer, but I guess this could be removed. The cockpit seats two. I can purchase the fuselage for probably about $200. It weighs about 250 pounds. The builder lost interest in completing the project.
My question: Could this fuselage serve as a good start for the design and construction of a hydrofoil ? ","2002-08-28","Jim Boxmeyer","nopswd",".","jimboxmeyer@elevatorpro.com"
"33","300634","1","Just sayin` HI ! ;O)||300634","Hi Folks!
I'm just saying "HI!".. I have been moving about since the last time I posted here, back in 98 I think ! ( Yikes! Has it been THAT long !! ).
I have recently moved to Vancouver Island, British Columbia, in part because the waters here are PERFECT for testing out my experimental sailing hydrofoil that I'm STILL working on.. intermittantly ! The waters are often very flat, but with good winds.. The only problems I foresee are the dangers of hitting semi submerged floating objects, at speed.. lots of logs wash up on the beaches !
I'll post pixs when I get that far.. the work I've done so far continues to be positive, encouraging, and exciting.
I hope everyone has enjoyed the summer, and been out on the water..
Best Wishes,
Tyler
","2002-08-24","Tyler Ahlgren","nopswd",".","tallgreen@earthlink.net"
"34","290975","1","Condor 5||290975","A photo of Condor 5 arriving at St Malo in the 80s. Still looking for a PT50 !","2002-08-05","Nick James","nopswd",".","ncjames@lineone.net"
"35","290175","1","New Daily IHS Summary E-Mail Service||290175","To All IHS Members: New E-Mail Notification Service
As you all know the International Hydrofoil Society is a close knit community with many diverse members with all sorts of valuable expertise.
To help each other communicate better, we have been developing our WEB Site and Bulletin Board as a means to interactively exchange information electronically, in addition to our wonderfull Journal prepared and mailed out to all of you mostly though the efforts of our President John Meyer.
Our Bulletin Board has been up for four months at:
http://www.bulletinboards.com/cftree.cfm?comcode=foils
and is now being visited over a thousand times a month.
To eliminate the need for you to manually go to the Bulletin Board to see and answer the posted messages there, we have instituted a new E-mail Notification Service for IHS Members.
Email Notification Service Explanation
Enabling the E-Mail Notification feature will now include the text of each new posted message with each e-mail notification and gives users the ability to post messages and reply to messages directly from their e-mail browser.
This feature also allows messages with embedded html, graphics, and photos to be displayed correctly within the user's email browser. Some users find this convenient, because they can view and post to our IHS board without going to the board web site directly.
If you want to keep this feature active do nothing.
If you want to disable it, just follow the instructions at the bottom of each E-mail Notification.
I hope you find this usefull. If not, let us know so we can continue to better serve you.
Thanks
Bill White
IHS Bulletin Board Moderator
","2002-08-03","Bill White","nopswd",".","whitewn@speakeasy.net"
"36","287622","1","Hydrofoils on TV; Discovery Ch Canada||287622","I have seen the hydrofoil documentary:Hydrofoils flying on water,
It looks very nice!!!
I hope it will also show on Discovery Ch Europe.","2002-07-29","Capt Mark van Rijzen","nopswd",".","dutchhydrofoils@wanadoo.nl"
"37","279188","1","Hydrofoils on TV; Discovery Ch Canada||279188","We now have a Canadian air date for Hydrofoils: flying on water. It
will be on Discovery Canada July 19 at 9pm EDT.
If you have an announcement list for the IHS, you may want to send a
message for the sake of any Canadian members.
We will be getting copies for you folks after the first airing.
I hope you like the show.
Lou
Lou Duggan
Director of Research
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2A1
E-mail: Lou@thesea.ca","2002-07-06","Lou Duggan","nopswd",".","Lou@thesea.ca"
"38","263156","1","Bulletin Board Enhancements||263156","Our Bulletin Board provider has upgraded their software.
Several changes have been made which are itemized below.
Not the least of which is supposed to be faster response time.
Let me know if you see any difference in performance.
Thanks
Bill White
IHS Bulletin Board Moderator
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Bulletin Board Enhancements (v6.2)
Board Manager Memo
Version 6.2 has been officially installed on all boards.
This memo describes the latest Enhancements(V6.2)
to your bulletin/message board system at:
http://www.bulletinboards.com/view.cfm?comcode=foils
Version 6.2 includes the following new capabilities:
o 1. EmailNotificationPlus - An enhancement to the default
Email Notification capability.
o 2. Message Title List - Allows users to view a summary list
of all message titles (when using non-threaded format).
o 3. Remember Password Feature - Allows users to request their
board remember his/her login password.
o 4. Three and Six month view options added to the
"Show messages created in the last:" date-range filter menu.
o 5. Speedup Enhancements to the database servers.
o 6. New keyword options added to Undocumented Options.
All enhancements have been installed and are available.
There is no charge for any of these enhancements
except for the EmailNotificationPlus feature. There is
an additional $4.95/month service fee when this feature
is enabled.
These options can be turned on/off via your board management panel.
Below is a detailed description of each enhancement.
1. EmailNotificationPlus (ENP) -
This option was added because of user requests for
a "ListServ" feature, whereby users can receive and post messages
to your board from their email browsers.... i.e. without ever
visiting your board. This optional feature is an enhancement to
the default Email Notification feature each board is initially
given.
Your current default Email Notification feature allows users
to be notified when new messages are added to their
board, but doesn't display the text of messages
or allow email recipients to post or reply to messages from
their email browser. The ENP feature, when enabled, gives users
these capabilities and allows users to request email notification
in HTML format. Receiving email notification in HTML format allows
users to view images/graphics embedded within board messages and
correctly displays any html formatting used by message posters.
Because of additional processing resources required, a monthly
$4.95 fee is assessed when this feature is enabled.
2. Message Title List -
This feature gives users the ability to view a summary list
of message titles (when using non-threaded format). A
new button labeled "List of Msg Titles", at the top of each
board, displays the message title list.
Also, clicking on a message title when viewing board
messages, takes a user to the Message Title List.
Users can return, from the Message Title List, to the message
they were viewing, or any message in the list by clicking
on a message title within the list.
3. Remember Password Feature -
Boards utilizing password protection now allow users to save
their login password on their computer. This prevents a
user from having to enter his/her password on each visit to
their board.
4. Additional Date Range View Options -
Three and Six month view options were added to the
"Show messages created in the last:" filter menu located
at the top of each board. This option was added because
of user requests for additional date range filters.
5. Speed-up Enhancements to the database servers.
Several speed improvements(hardware and software related)
have been implemented across all database servers over
the last couple of months. These speed enhancements
have improved average user response times when displaying
and posting messages.
6. New management keyword options.
Several new keyword options have been installed.
These options are infrequently used and not readily apparent
from your management page.
Hope you find these features helpful.
best regards,
al
As usual, Any feedback from board managers, good or bad,
is always welcome.
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=============================================","2002-05-23","Bill White","nopswd",".","whitewn@speakeasy.net"
"39","252381","1","Instructions for IHS Bulletin Board||252381","Speeding up BBS Response, two Tips
These tips might help if you have a slow connection for any reason from a low speed modem to heavy internet traffic.
1. Ignore old messages:
The most dramatic speed improvement is obtained by reducing the number of messages displayed at anyone time by limiting the Time Span of displayed messages to one or two weeks.
You accomplish this simply by selecting the "Show messages created in the last:" Day, 2 days, Week, 2 weeks, Month etc" Pull-down menu. Just select the desired time period and the BBS automatically displays only the messages posted within that time frame. This becomes a new default until you change it.
2. Use a Single Page Non-theaded Display:
Once you are in the BBS you can speed the response and eliminate clicking on nested threds by selecting the Non-threaded display option at the top.
You accomplish this by clicking on the "Threads/Red Slash" Button.
This brings you to the optional non threaded display with the topics buttons table at the top like before, and all messages listed below it for you to scroll through without clicking through topics, and their Threads.
At the bottom of this page is a summary list of all message titles for a really quick scan of what's on the site. Clicking on any title takes you to it directly.","2002-04-26","webmaster@foils.org","nopswd",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"40","252372","1","Instructions for IHS Bulletin Board||252372","Accessing the Bulletin board:
You can get to the Bulletin Board (BBS) from the IHS main page at www.foils.org. Just click on the link to the BBS in the site directory on the Home Page.
The first time you open this BBS page, a couple of java applets will download and install on your machine, so it will be slow to load up. Next visit, the page will come up much quicker. In any case, hopefully you will find the right topic thread to leave your message. A reply might be a while in coming because this feature was just initialized, and we are debugging it before notifying the entire membership. Any problems, let the Webmaster@foils.org know, and we will try to help you work through them. We am learning, too.","2002-04-26","webmaster@foils.org","nopswd",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"41","252371","1","Instructions for IHS Bulletin Board||252371","Bulletin Board recent FAQs
1 "it takes more steps to view the various messages."
You are absolutely right. it does take more steps to view the various messages. The reason is that the board is now Categorized by topic to force the users to file their messages under general topics. The IHS Webmaster used to do this manually in a multi step process. First, he would review each incoming email and send it to appropriate people to answer. Second he would post it to the "new Uncategorized Web page. Third he would assemble all the E-mails and their attachments into a Topic Category and lay them out on Web pages
and republish them in the Topic FAQ section of the Posting section of the Web Site. This was very time consuming and labor intensive.
The new Bulletin board automates all of that by forcing the users to post their messages under one of the 12 general topics. It also provides for Replying to any message posted. This Reply feature automatically keeps the original message and all it's replies together for easier viewing and later Archiving onto our IHS Web site and publishing in our News letter.
This Threading feature permits any user (you included) to start any new
discussion sub topic by simply posting a new message.
2. "the new format:"
If you liked the old format. you can basically go back to it by clicking on the Threads/Slash Button. This brings you to an optional display with the topics buttons table at the top like before, and all messages listed below it for you to scroll through without clicking through topics, and their Threads. At the bottom of this page is a summary list of all message titles for a really quick scan of what's on the site. Clicking on any title takes you to it directly. Try it out, if you and others like it better, we could make it the Default display instead of the current Threaded hierarchical Display.
I did not make it the default at first, because when there are lots of
messages on the Board it is very cumbersome to scroll through. But with the View Recent options now available, maybe this isn't the problem I originally thought it was.
3. "how the option to view messages posted in recent days / weeks / months works."
There are at least three ways to view recent messages.
As you guessed selecting the "Show messages created in the last:" Day, 2 days, Week, 2 weeks, Month etc' automatically displays only the messages posted within that time frame.
The second more powerful way is to click on the SEARCH Button at the top of the page. The Search engine lets you also specify time frames like the Show message pull down. In addition you can specify a date or a range of dates. You can also specify a given number of Topics and keywords. I Think you will find it useful.
The third way is to instruct the Bulletin Board to notify you of all new messages posted each day under any or all the Topics.
You enable this capability by Clicking on the button located just below the message listing as shown here:
(To Be Notified Whenever A Message Is Posted To This Board Click Here)
A display will then list all the Topics. Just select the Topics you want to be notified about, and the system will then keep you posted once a day via E-mail.
If you do this you are automatically one of our "expert volunteers" helping to answer new messages.
4 "If you want permission to change inaccurate or unclear messages you need a special password."
You enable this by entering your own private message password when you enter a message.
If you forget and make a mistake in a message, send an e-mail to the webmaster@foils.org and will fix it for you.
Have fun
Bill White
Asst. IHS Webmaster
","2002-04-26","Bill White","nopswd",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"42","250467","1","Bibliography; Advanced Marine Vehicles||250467","
Click Below to open AMV Bibliography:
http://www.foils.org/AMVBibliog.pdf
ADVANCED MARINE VEHICLE (AMV) BIBLIOGRAPHY
The attached bibliography cites approximately 500 key AMV documents. This bibliography was initially compiled in 1993 by the 51 members of the AMV (SD-5) group of the US Society of Naval Architects (SNAME). This group of AMV experts came from many nations and included many IHS members. This list was intended to provide a truly comprehensive identification of the key documents covering the various aspects of AMV technology, design and operation.
As users of this bibliography your assistance in this project is solicited. Please recommend additions or deletions to the list and provide comments regarding the utility and manner of use of specific documents. With this information the list will be continually updated and future users will have the benefit of your observations on individual documents.
You can easily add to or make comments on the AMV Bibliography by using the REPLY BUTTON at the top this message.
At this time the majority of these documents are not readily available to the public. To address this, 57 documents have been included on the current initial IHS CD-ROM. Others are in the public domain. IHS and the SD-5 AMV SNAME Group are endeavoring to provide additional CD-ROMS as resources become available. When new IHS CD-Roms are complete, they will be advertised on this IHS website.
Should any user be in a position to contribute funding of any amount for the scanning of additional documents for CD-ROMs, this would be of great help and would hasten the availability of additional CD-ROMs at an economical cost to the community. ","2002-04-22","webmaster@foils.org","guru",".","webmaster@foils.org"
"43","238120","1","Archive; Comments on the Website/Newsletter||238120","Click Below to Open this Archive.
http://www.foils.org/web.htm
","2002-03-25","Webmaster@foils.org","FOILSADM","","Webmaster@foils.org"
"44","237706","1","Instructions for IHS Bulletin Board||237706","Click below to open
http://www.foils.org/postings020323.htm ","2002-03-24","webmaster@foils.org","ihs","",""
