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Count,MessageID,category,ShortTitle,Message,Date,UserName,MsgPswd,Phone,Email,ParentMsgId
"1","952795","4","What happened to the Flying DUKW||952795","
I am still in the process of restoring my Super Duck (product improved DUKW of WWII fame). While cruising the internet I saw a posting regarding what happened to the Flying Duck? this may be OBE, but here is some information. During the 31st Annual East Coast Military Vehicle Rally May 2004 at Ripken Stadium Aberdeen, MD; Mr. Tom Murray of Dover Delaware and I were looking at my Super Duck in the display area. Tom Murray is famous in military vehicle circles for his successful business of military vehicle salvage and restoration since WWII when his father started the business. In one passing remark Tom told me that he had bought the Flying Duck at an auction years ago. I had no interest at the time, but after seeing the posting thought someone might find the info useful. Tom Murray is now retired, his son John runs the business in Dover Delaware. The Flying Duck was probably scrapped years ago, but at least closes the chapter on what happened to it.
Regards
Tom.....
","2005-12-27","Tom Buonaugurio","nopswd"," ","surplusyes@comcast.net","4"
"2","945843","4","Obituary; Emmet D. Swank of Boeing||945843","
Emmett Swank, 84, passed away peacefully on December 7, 2005, in Everett. He was born in Unionville, Iowa, on October 22, 1921, to Claude and Clara Swank.
He was a graduate of Ford Kansas High School, class of 1939. He later joined the Army Air Corps and served proudly in Europe during World War II. He married June Wasson, in 1946, and they moved to the Everett area in 1956 to begin a career with the Boeing Company.
Emmett worked in the Boeing Hydrofoil Division, where he spent numerous years traveling throughout the world. Emmet spent many years as the production boss of hydrofoils and ended his career at Boeing as the Key West support group manager. He retired from Boeing in 1985.
Emmett is survived by his devoted wife of 59 years, June; sons, Gordon (Pamela) Swank, of Everett, and Dallas (Jeanne) Swank, of Monroe, Washingotn; grandsons, Emmett R. Swank, of Folsom, California, Logan D. Swank, of Marysville, Washington, and Robyn (Jay) Kibby, of Marysville; and brother, Wendell Swank, of Dodge City, Kansas.
He was preceded in his death by his son, David L. Swank; and three sisters.
At Emmett's request, no services will be held.","2005-12-10","William white","nopswd"," ","whitewn@speakeasy.net","4"
"3","914592","4","Designer L E Baynes||914592","I found this answer to a question in Google and being a hydrofoil enthusiast I am intriqued.
Do any members of the Society know of the craft mentioned in the last sentence, please?
The following is the quote from the site:- http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=70711
"Subject: Re: second world war
From: nigelweb-ga on 01 Aug 2004 17:37 PDT
=============== For general information:
L E Baynes AFRAeS... most famous for: inventor and held international
patents for first Swing Wing Aircraft (variable sweep).
Chronology (summary): 1919 patented first automatic variable pitch
airscrew, 1924-27 responsible for aerodynamic design of Short
'Singapore' Flying-Boat, 1929-30 Designs and manufactured first all
British glider to soar... Scud I. 1933-35 Scud II sailplanes; British
height record holder and international event winner. 1936 Designed and
built Scud III; first retractable and motored sailplane. 1937 Designed
and built first twin-engine pusher monoplane with wing-buried engines.
1939 Project designed 'gas turbine system' 100 passenger long-range
aircraft (for ref. see 'Gas Turbines and Jet Propulsion for Aircraft'
by Geoffrey Smith 1942). 1938 Designed and patented first V/TOL swivel
turbine 'Heliplane' . 1939-45 Designed and built for M.O.S.
experimental tail-less flying wing (Baynes Bat) for tank carrying
project (initiated by Churchill) , Designed and implemented conversion
of Boston Bombers to search-light aircraft, submarine guided missiles
and other weapons and equipment for the RAF. 1946-48 Designed and
built for M.O.S. High-Lift Research Aircraft. 1949 Designed and
patented the first Variable-Sweep Fighter Aircraft for supersonic
flight. 1950-62 Designed and manufactured airliner equipment for major
aircraft companies and airlines. 1963-64 Designed and patented a
high-speed hydrofoil sea craft (made secret by the ministry).
","2005-10-15","T H Connell","med14pil"," ","t.connell@btopenworld.com","4"
"4","914591","4","Designer L E Baynes||914591","I found this answer to a question in Google and being a hydrofoil enthusiast I am intriqued.
Do any members of the Society know of the craft mentioned in the last sentence, please?
The following is the quote from the site:- http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=70711
"Subject: Re: second world war
From: nigelweb-ga on 01 Aug 2004 17:37 PDT
=============== For general information:
L E Baynes AFRAeS... most famous for: inventor and held international
patents for first Swing Wing Aircraft (variable sweep).
Chronology (summary): 1919 patented first automatic variable pitch
airscrew, 1924-27 responsible for aerodynamic design of Short
'Singapore' Flying-Boat, 1929-30 Designs and manufactured first all
British glider to soar... Scud I. 1933-35 Scud II sailplanes; British
height record holder and international event winner. 1936 Designed and
built Scud III; first retractable and motored sailplane. 1937 Designed
and built first twin-engine pusher monoplane with wing-buried engines.
1939 Project designed 'gas turbine system' 100 passenger long-range
aircraft (for ref. see 'Gas Turbines and Jet Propulsion for Aircraft'
by Geoffrey Smith 1942). 1938 Designed and patented first V/TOL swivel
turbine 'Heliplane' . 1939-45 Designed and built for M.O.S.
experimental tail-less flying wing (Baynes Bat) for tank carrying
project (initiated by Churchill) , Designed and implemented conversion
of Boston Bombers to search-light aircraft, submarine guided missiles
and other weapons and equipment for the RAF. 1946-48 Designed and
built for M.O.S. High-Lift Research Aircraft. 1949 Designed and
patented the first Variable-Sweep Fighter Aircraft for supersonic
flight. 1950-62 Designed and manufactured airliner equipment for major
aircraft companies and airlines. 1963-64 Designed and patented a
high-speed hydrofoil sea craft (made secret by the ministry).
","2005-10-15","T H Connell","nopswd"," ","t.connell@btopenworld.com","4"
"5","908710","4","Hovering Craft and Hydrofoil Index||908710","I have created and posted a list of articles for each of the past issues of Hovering Craft & Hydrofoil Magazine (predecessor to Fast Ferry International). Go to: www.exigent.info/HC&Hcontents.pdf
This is not a complete list, so I would very much appreciate additions from anybody who has copies of any issue or issues missing from the list!","2005-10-06","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," "," ","4"
"6","884498","4","Re; Little Squirt = Pump Jet?||884498","Barney,
By the time of the 1968-69 issue (2nd issue) of Jane's Surface Skimmer Systems, "Little Squirt" was being referred to as "Little Squirt" with no mention of an earlier name. They wrote: "Little Squirt was designed and built by Boeing in 1962 as a company sponsored water-jet research vehicle".","2005-08-28","Martin Grimm","nopswd"," ","seaflite@alphalink.com.au","877875"
"7","877875","4","Little Squirt = Pump Jet?||877875","I just saw an article in the Jan 1963 edition of Hovering Craft and Hydrofoil about Boeing's water-jet hydrofoil. The craft is named "Pump Jet" in the photo caption. Was this an early or maybe an "official" name for "Little Squirt"?","2005-08-16","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," "," ","4"
"8","865794","4","Hovering Craft and Hydrofoil Mags on eBay||865794","I have put several lots of HC&H magazines up for auction on eBay. These are from Neil Lien's collection, that he is cleaning up. Before auctioning them I am making an index of articles and keywords for the magazines I have... will put this up on the IHS site when I am done. There are some gaps in the magazines I have, so I will be asking people if they have any of the issues I have not seen if they would be willing to send information for the index. If you want to bid on some or all of these, go to eBay and search for hydrofoil. So far the magazines have been selling for about a dollar each plus postage.","2005-07-24","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," "," ","0"
"9","856104","4","Re; AGEH-1 and PCH-1 Status||856104","I saw a set of plans (for a model in 1:25?)for sale on Ebay.com once.
Was to late for it.
It had a description in french.
I olny have the Popular Mechanics,but that's to litle to make a
RC model of the Plainview...
Maybe someone out there know a bit more??
Gteetzz from Holland.
","2005-07-05","Mark van Rijzen","nopswd"," ","dutchhydrofoils@wanadoo.nl","0"
"10","855605","4","Re; AGEH-1 and PCH-1 Status||855605","added photo (last of 4)","2005-07-04","Tom Jensen","nopswd"," ","c180tom@eskimo.com","0"
"11","855603","4","Re; AGEH-1 and PCH-1 Status||855603","added photo (3 of 4)","2005-07-04","Tom Jensen","nopswd"," ","c180tom@eskimo.com","0"
"12","855601","4","Re; AGEH-1 and PCH-1 Status||855601","added photos (4 total)","2005-07-04","Tom Jensen","nopswd"," ","c180tom@eskimo.com","0"
"13","855597","4","AGEH-1 and PCH-1 Status||855597","I took the enclosed pictures of poor ol' Plainview grounded in Hungry Harbor on March 25, 2005 when visiting the Astoria and Long Beach area. There is a rough "Gyppo" salvage operation underway, probably reflecting the price of aluminum. Seeing the innards exposed was sad and almost disrespectful, but it brought back many memories. (e.g., the hullborne line shaft couplings visible in .1.1 reminded me of hanging over the railing in that compartment late at night in north of Haro Straights, replacing the shear pins in a coupling. The engineering crew made suitable temporary pins from a bolt and installing it was sure proof of my sea legs, with fumes and sea conditions causing lots of rolling motion.) I have some almost "artsy" Plainview slides from the early 70's, including one of the supercavitating propellers against an evening sky. If you think folks would be interested, I'll dig them out and scan a few. I also tried to run down the location of PCH-1. It had apparently been moved from the private dock east of the Maritime museum in Astoria to Tongue Point. The area was closed to the public so I couldn't investigate further. It was rumored to have been scrapped. Sincerely, Tom Jensen Boeing engineering support of Hystu, 1971-1975 ","2005-07-04","Tom Jensen","nopswd"," ","c180tom@eskimo.com","0"
"14","824682","4","Re; Hydrofoil Archieves||824682","Search our web site under High Pockets (Note Two Words)
Typical finds on our site at: http://www.foils.org/baker.htm#hp
I doubt any real technical reports have survived within the Navy from that far back. At least I do not remember any from the Advanced Ship Data bank of reports at Caderock DTNSRDC.
Bill White","2005-05-06","white","nopswd"," ","whitewn@speakeasy.net","0"
"15","824464","4","Hydrofoil Archieves||824464","Can anyone give me a reference to obtain "HIGHPOCKETS" technical reports?
Also the same for "SEALEGS"
Gerry Levine, GALUS MARINE LLC
e-mail levinega@galusmarine.com
561-628-5940","2005-05-06","Gerry Levine","nopswd"," ","gerrymega@adelphia.net","0"
"16","795121","4","Longest Voyage||795121","I have a history question: What is the longest voyage made by a full-flying hydrofoil? That is, a boat capable of lifting the whole hull out of the water, as opposed to a boat that is foil-stabilized and retains some buoyant support at all times.
Has any full-flying hydrofoil ever crossed an ocean? Circumnavigated?","2005-03-12","Tom Speer","nopswd"," ","me@tspeer.com","0"
"17","790207","4","Re: Plainview Patch / Badge Origin||790207","Referring to the picture provided in the original message by Barney Black, the top left patch is the original logo designed by POIC Lt. Hugh Burkons. Plaques were also cast with this logo. Some time later, the top right patch took over. Designer is unknown to me. Plaques were also cast with this logo. The bottom patch is the military hydrofoil generic patch. Patches were made for all the military hydrofoils with this logo with their respective names. ","2005-03-03","S. Arima","nopswd"," ","SA_IHS_1980@verizon.net","0"
"18","790045","4","Plainview Patch / Badge Origin||790045","Can anyone tell me anything about the origin and authenticity of the patches in the photo? Which organization issued them and when? Why the three different versions? Are there any other Plainview patches issued that are not represented in the photo? Thanks!","2005-03-03","Barney C Black","nopswd"," ","bcblack@erols.com","0"
"19","787382","4","In Memoriam: Harlowe Longfelder||787382","Sumi Arima submitted the following link to the obituary for Harlowe Longfelder printed in the Seattle Post Intelligencer. He was a leader in Boeing's space and missile programs, as well as the hydrofoil boat program. For a time, he was Al Rand's boss on the HYSTU support contract.
http://www.legacy.com/Link.asp?Id=LS03207915X
","2005-02-25","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," ","bcblack@erols.com","0"
"20","743860","4","JETFOIL model pics. (nm) ||743860","No Message","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"21","743858","4"," Wonderful Boeing jetfoil (nm) ||743858","No Message","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"22","743857","4","JETFOIL model pics. (nm) ||743857","No Message","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"23","743856","4","JETFOIL model pics. (nm) ||743856","No Message","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"24","743855","4"," Wonderful Boeing jetfoil ||743855","Hello. Clark Dodge san
Since the mail like the point was imperfect, it re-contributes. I am a Japanese radio control ship maniac. Your contribution report was read. I very like the Boeing jetfoil. The photograph of a radio control jetfoil which I manufactured to BBS in March, this year was carried. In order to make this jetfoil, I went to ride on the jetfoil put into service to Kansai Airport in Japan, and experienced the wonderful degree of comfort. You who participated in the program which builds such a wonderful ship are wonderful. The picture of the radio control model of the Boeing jetfoil which I manufactured is sent here again. Above","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"25","743844","4","A wonderful jetfoil program||743844","control ship maniac, I very like the Boeing jetfoil. My model radio control jetfoil was contributed also to this BBS in March, this year. And I went to take purposely the ship of thing of the jetfoil put into service to access of Kansai Airport in Japan, in order to make the radio control model of this jetfoil, and I have experienced the wonderful degree of comfort. It is very wonderful that you came considering development of the jetfoil of the wonderful degree of comfort as work. Here, since the radio control jetfoil which I made is contributed once again here, please see. Above","2004-11-26","yoichi takahashi ","nopswd"," ","skyex@triton.ocn.ne.jp","0"
"26","743420","4","Re: Boeing Jetfoil Program||743420","Clark, there is a group of retired Boeing engineers in the Seattle area that are veterans of Boeing's various hydrofoil programs and that meet for lunch occasionally and informally to keep in touch and remember old times. I believe I have email addresses for a couple of them that I know from the Navy PHM program, so I will forward your posting to them.","2004-11-24","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," ","barney@alum.mit.edu","0"
"27","737676","4","Boeing Jetfoil Program||737676","I just thought I would send a note about the Boeing Jetfoil, and the
documents you have on IHS.
I am a SNAME member of the Pacific Northwest Section, (#17706) and the
senior Staff Chief Engineer for Washington State Department of
Transportation Marine Division. One of my fun times was a part of the
Boeing Jetfoil test program in Seattle. These vessel were absolutely a
dream to work and ride. It is a shame that as much work was not put into
them to make them work as the negative attacks. Compared to many vessels
today they were a good melt of airplane and vessel. I have many hours of
riding and night maintenance to remember. They were a blast.
Now after 38 years and enjoying my present assignment as Staff Chief
Engineer of the Jumbo Mark II, MV Wenatchee, I am retiring to pursue my
consulting business.
Clark Dodge, President
CED Consulting LLC
225 SW 171st. Street
Seattle, WA. 98166
(206) 244-9849
Phone: 206-244-9849
Fax: 206-988-3769
Clark@burien.net
","2004-11-14","Clark Dodge","theboard"," ","Clark@burien.net","0"
"28","705827","4","Re: Current Status of PHMs||705827","Thanks for that update, Dan. I will make sure the IHS NL editor sees your status report... he may well want to include it in the next newsletter... if so, he may ask you for a couple of photos to illustrate the news.","2004-09-08","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," ","bcblack@erols.com","0"
"29","702077","4","Current Status of PHMs||702077","I recently went on vacation in North Carolina. Prior to me leaving I contacted Eliot James (owner PHM-5) and he gave me contact information for Jim Lovlace the person who had purchased the other 4 remaining foils(PHM-2,3,5&6).
Two of the ships have been scrapped (PHM-2 and an unknown)
I got a personal tour of PHM-6 which has been re-outfitted with (3) 16V92 Detroit Diesels for Propulsion. The center gas turbine propulsor was replaced by one of the diesel driven ones from a scrapped PHM. The sides our now white and mirror smooth, gone are the days of print-thru thanks to high end marine bondo. There is an observation window set in the front bow area and a pair of glass bottom windows in the aft just forward of the hullborne waterjet intakes..The discussion of the day was trying to decide on a 8 or 10 person hot tub where the turbine exhaust once was.
The remaining untouched phm I walked around on taking many pictures and some digital video. My guess is that it was the Taurus but may have been the Aquila. They started cutting it up for scrap but the hydraulics on the front actuator leaked and the coast guard had shut down the scrapping.
David Jennings the owner of the Gemini (PHM-6) Purchased that remaining mystery PHM on the day I was there saving it from a Norfolk scrapyard. He stated that he is unsure of how extreme of a makeover the remaining PHM will have.
I guess the ships contain some very interesting metallurgy according to Jim Lovelace. He said that most parts are a very corrosion resistant aluminum. He hardly noticed any corrosion on the Phm's as they were cut up. Also some water was in the bilge of the PHM I toured but hardly noticed any corrosion.
The final score:
PHM-1 (gone, cut up in Charleston SC)
PHM-2 (gone, cut up in Wilmington NC)
PHM-3 & 4 (one gone one exists)
PHM-5 (sitting safely in the Missouri River being restored)
PHM-6 (extreme makeover is an understatement)
Dan Schmidt
","2004-08-30","Dan Schmidt","theboard"," ","gse2schmidt@ameritech.net","0"
"30","697280","4","Re; Re; AGEH-1 Plainview Plans||697280","Hi Mark, the record of the ebay auction will still be on the ebay website for a few weeks, so it would be possible to contact the winning bidder to see if he or she would be willing to make a copy and give or sell it. If you do not remember the item number, it is possible to search the ended auctions to find it again. - BArney","2004-08-20","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," ","bcblack@erols.com","0"
"31","694059","4","Re; AGEH-1 Plainview Plans||694059","Hello, I saw one go up for sale on ebay.com,but I was to late to buy it..The decripion was in french.","2004-08-13","Capt Mark van Rijzen","nopswd"," ","dutchhydrofoils@wanadoo.nl","0"
"32","692416","4","Re; AGEH-1 Plainview Plans||692416","James,
Early issues of Jane's Surface Skimmers (from late 60's) contained small scale three view drawings of the Plainview. They would hardly be sufficient to build a good scale model from however. The other suggestion therefore is for you to browse through 60's vintage issues of "Hovering Craft and Hydrofoil" journal as that may contain a better arrangement drawing. This journal may be held at larger libraries or those of universities. ","2004-08-10","Martin Grimm","nopswd"," ","seaflite@alphalink.com.au","0"
Speedboat / Hydrofoil Racing History
Speedboat Racing History Question
[10 Feb 02] Do you know anything about a hydrofoil named the MISS U.S.-3? I have two pictures of it in a 1964 book by E.A. Steiner Jr. and Lee Schoenith called Unlimited Incorporated, with a picture of the 1962 record-setting MISS US on the cover. It made an attempt at the world's water speed record in the 1930s. This was supposed to be the first high-speed hydrofoil. E.S. Evans Sr. was involved. (He is the father of Robert B. Evans who had the hydroplane MISS UNITED STATES III and later the STARS AND STRIPES jet hydroplanes.) The craft, nicknamed the "Whale," was powered by aircraft engines of some type. It rode on a type of 3-point suspension on two hydrofoil wings and rudder-wheel system and was designed on a hydrofoil principle. It had two ladder foil structures on each side, with two steps on the inside one and three on the outside one. The craft had three open cockpits at the bow, and it looks like they each held one person. On the bow were the numbers 55-A. There was a red, white, and blue burge type flag that had three stars and was inside a triangle with MISS US-3 in front. I would like any information on this craft you could come up with, if possible. -- Michael Prophet (sharonandmike@mindspring.com)
Response...
[10 Feb 02] IHS has no information at hand on this; it is not mentioned in the hydrofoil history references that I have seen, such as D.W. Fostle's book Speedboat. Note that MISS US-I, MISS US-II, and MISS US-IV were all "hydroplane" racing boats, and we have done nothing with those on our site. A better reference would be Leslie Fields' Hydroplane History website. We would be interested in a copy of any info you can dig up on the vessel and its designer and builder. As to the first high speed hydrofoil, that would probably be the HD-4 by Alexander Graham Bell and Casey Baldwin, which set a record of 70.86 mph in 1919. This speed was not exceeded until MISS AMERICA VIII achieved 75.28 mph in the Harmsworth Race in 1929. -- Barney C. Black (webmaster@foils.org)
[10 Mar 02] The name 'Bob Sellars' does turn up on the website of Simon Lewis and clarifies the question: "...During the build, Vaughan also recalls that some work was done by Bob Sellars, exactly what it was he isn't sure, but Bob Sellars went on to design part of the Lightning fighter plane." The English Electric P.1B research prototype first flight was on 4 August 1954. The production F.1 Lightning began entering service in 1959. This was a UK post war jet fighter aircraft and not the WW2 US designed twin propeller aircraft of the same name. These dates also line up well with the time that the 'White Hawk' was being run in the UK in 1952. -- Martin Grimm (seaflite@alphalink.com.au)
[Date/Time=03-23-2002 - 1:01 AM]
Name:webmaster@foils.org
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